Friday, November 28, 2008

Thanksgiving 2008

Maritime Historial
:: Bill Lightfoot ::
Mom made it back, sans cell, was robbed in Geneva, but enjoyed really good treatment by the airlines, arrived in good spirits.

My relatives aren't all on the same page, politically, so some ribbing goes on. Like one of our number, retired military, had this upside-down elephant with Xs for eyes, pushing up daisies, embroidered on his T-shirt. He kept it behind his suspender though, so not too in your face, plus he only talked about it every ten minutes or so, leaving lots of room for other views. I suggested a subversive interpretation: fertilizing the future.

RIP Republicans
One of my uncles couldn't see how all these promises could be kept, around health care, education, etc., now that those making them were in.

I responded with my standard GST rap: we've got a fully functional fusion furnace pumping out yottawatts of power, an Earthian economy well equipped to receive, to convert into hydrocarbons, other assets, so let's aim for a university average lifestyle and notch it up a bit, in terms of health care, education, dwelling machines (smart dorm options). "Think less like a politician, more like an engineer" (Wanderers influential).

Cousin Mary had to leave a little early, for duty at the ER. Her dad was a chemistry professor, recognized as a wizard early on by his West Virgina coal mining community, his dad especially. The college was happy to get him. The family later moved to Colorado.

The rest of us put things back together pretty well before leaving, various vehicles dispersing, ours northward, continuing along I-5 in the direction of Canada's Vancouver.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Wanderers 2008.11.25

I barged in late, having had business to attend to, arriving to a table surrounded by ten aging men, now eleven. Please pass the sake.

I remembered Jeff's book, which he'd left in our car.

We're talking about storage batteries at the moment...

Earlier the chatter focused on "Elena", that elvynchyk who ostensibly blasted through Chernobyl on her motorcycle taking pictures, the consensus today being that's not how it happened.

However, this being a story from Russia, which is really the cover story? Good for a laugh anyway. Potemkin Villages or whatever.

Effective art in any case, and cleverly packaged.

Lots of Quaker business today, both over the Web and in person.

Keith is showing and telling about an eight watt PC Engines ALIX with an AES encryption chip, which he plans to employ as a router tasked with decrypting the VPNs he's using.

It's time for some last minute shopping.

Monday, November 24, 2008

View from a Height

A Former Abode
Social networking tools such as Facebook make a lot of sense to Friends, is my leading, in that here we're able to cast a net, practice discernment, plain speech, other indigenous mannerisms.

Thanks to Facebook, I was able to find the above photo by Cary Kittner, from inside her tree house in upstate New York. Fond memories. She and Stu were partners in Design Science Toys, the source of many an important math learning artifact.

I was just bragging on Math Forum about my gig with this astute company, as a part of a marketing effort.

00030
:: @ FG ::

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Twilight (movie review)

I felt privileged to accompany my daughter on this quasi reunion of Winterhaven students, now somewhat scattered to different high schools, although I had my own row, wish I'd worn my other glasses.

I worry about films that make the Pacific Northwest too appealing, as we've had a lot of immigration already (including me from Chicago), but this one shows lots of rain and gray skies, so maybe people will get the picture: Phoenix has better weather, and probably fewer undead.

Yes, a vampire movie, a classic American motif by this time, a kind of soap opera, this one based on a wildly popular trilogy among teens ("the movie is a valiant attempt" said Tara, but of course has to leave a lot out).

I'm always hopeful when I see quirky introverted guys with uncomfortable secrets (hangups?) getting dates; all one needs are incredible superpowers on the side, the premise of almost every comic book drawn by a quirky guy, seems like.

Quite the little high school they've got there, plus there's a beach, a reservation, amazing views -- but if you wanna really smash a lotta glass, that's in Phoenix.

I sound tongue in cheek, but then the film doesn't take itself too seriously either, that notion of vegetarian tofu loving vampires (a euphemism) so very Birkenstock, so funky liberal in the way we are out here.

These undead live in a Frank Lloyd Wright house like the one Harold Long designed, looks just like Lake Oswego, please pass the wine and cheese (Italiano!).

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Planning Committee Meeting

kirby, jane and diane, photo by nancy



Mt. Hood Kiwanis had to purchase too much food on the basis of anticipated numbers, which turned out to be less than predicted.

Food and program were superb, some got cold, especially in the yurt, one Friend fell out of a bunk bed.

I left my keys in the car with my lights on, had to call AAA.

Possible future themes: the role of music and dance in our practice; Quakers as a dying breed (not really); Quakers in the arts and literature. Diane suggesting something more like Cyborg Camp maybe.

Jane had also just seen the Bucky play, so we talked about that some too.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Hard Times

Speaking of toxic landlords (see previous post), some infamous in our zip code (97214), many are perversely raising rents at this time, as their response to scary economic news is to squeeze tenants even harder.

What Congress apparently never understood, given those jobs pay pretty well, is that the lending industry was never a kind one (nor gentle either), and now that it's weak, missing a war it'd banked on, it really wants to destroy a lot more lives, to keep a few rich on Wall Street. Adding muscle to that species, in the form of a "bail out" is hardly good medical science, just more quack politicians with no clue, wasting a lot of time and energy dealing in sugar pill placebos.

Fortunately, we don't really need Congress, nor the state legislatures, when it comes to altering the mix in mathematics and science. Stanford is buzzing with new curriculum writers, galvanized by some of the stronger teachers there, has already given us LEP High, in the form of Koreducators. There's really no comparison between a stuck in the mud traditional curriculum, and one informed by 20th century breakthroughs, even some in the 21st, though we're only seven years into it.

As a private sector (commercial) small businessman (like Joe the Plumber, but a geek), my focus is advertising. If more people understood the world from an engineering viewpoint, there might be less vulnerability to real estate bubbles, or even dot com bubbles, with technology twisted to bizarre ends by money-lending practices designed for the dark ages. We understand energy economics a lot better now.

Our enemy is more a failure of the human imagination, which we have the means to counter (e.g. through advertising, as I was mentioning), not anything God-given about Spaceship Earth, e.g. some "fatal lack of resources".

Passenger Train

Saturday, November 15, 2008

Neighborhood Associations

Harmonic Convergence
:: good neighbors (not always) ::

Portland has a strong sense of neighborhood, each one named, proud of its history. Having city historians makes a big difference, be they at PSU or wherever. Not every city is so lucky.

Among those who preserve our heritage, by oral traditional as well is by file, are the various Neighborhood Associations. I used to work for CNN (Central Northeast Neighbors), and Southeast Uplift, as a provider of computer services. Plus I served on the Hollywood Neighborhood Association for a spell, a real eye opener at the time.

The neighborhood Fred Meyer was getting set to close, so people worried about property values, having no way of knowing a Trader Joe's would be coming in later, plus Hollywood is special anyway, with other "Freddy's" nearby (big one off Broadway, which is why the Hollywood one closed, not smart to run both so close together).

Then there was that cougar or other wild cat some neighbor thought he, or she, might own. The details grow hazy in the rear view mirror. I was still driving Gutless at the time I'm pretty sure.

Just as college students now rate their professors, sometimes with a chip on their shoulder or ax to grind, we all realize, i.e. teachers aren't always trying to win some popularity contest, come off as curmudgeonly, more like House M.D. or Andy Rooney on 60 Minutes, both highly skilled TV personalities, deserving of their pay checks, so might tenants rate their landlords or banks.

Not all landlords are equally popular (with good reason) but sometimes a gruff exterior hides a heart of gold (other times stone though, so watch yourself). Neighborhood associations have the capability to poll neighbors about the kinds of commerce that go on within their borders, with neighbors equally free to opt in on some surveys. Not all coffee shops have free Wifi. The web sites will tell you.

Friday, November 14, 2008

Today's Workout

In an effort to understand some already working code, I've been delving into Pyro, Python Remote Objects, along with the pyprocessing library, getting a Mother daemon to feed tasks to worker bees under a Queen, each one a process. I've got SQLite taking the place of a bigger gorilla in the target TurboGears application.

Tuesday, November 11, 2008

PPUG 2008.11.11

:: this just in (from dk) ::
Our first talk tonight is about coroutines in Python, which in our shoptalk involves using a generator's send method.

A generator cycles around to a yield expression and waits, with a next or send triggering a next cycle. Use send if you want to pass in some data.

So why is next, a builtin, calling __next__, but yet there's no send calling __send__? I should Google up some discussions on that, as no doubt there are some. What I'm thinking: I don't think we'd want people overloading send, since it's so conceptually wired to yield, whereas __next__ (triggered by next) might be any useful idea of an iteration.

Next, a web form templating library, wtforms, allows macros, validators. But there's something changed in the design since three weeks ago that leaves this geek thinking maybe stay away for now.

Jason kicked off with some apologies for our lame swag, Argentina kicking our butts in the cool T-shirts department. I asked about just importing theirs, which are open source anyhoo, really like their look.

This other geek brought chantrelles, made some offers to share, got 'em on my radar, love those doodads. Others might beat me to 'em though, not that aggressive (or selfish, as the case may be -- got Buxton's already this year).

Speaking of Jim Buxton, I'm missing Wanderers tonight, this monthly Python meeting helping with professional development in a very niche area, a kind of workout I don't get at Pauling House, no offense.

Jason: robocop and unicorn is "a thing" right now, what the hell?

Flatland
. Looks pretty cool, Jason's invention. Very schema-based, flexible, works with JSON somehow. Validation is agnostic as to where the data came from, maybe not a web form (maybe a database?).

The presentation on FormEncode (based on CherryPy) is by a geek who just moved to Portland from Peoria. We gave him a round of applause for stepping up to the plate on such short notice.

Two types of form libraries (looking at a slide): lightweight and heavyweight. Validation will never be as sexy as CouchDB or JQuery-UI. Hey, good to know what's sexy, eh? Thanks guy.

It's "beer o'clock"! Produce Row. I hung out with some Intel geeks, including Matt McCredie, talking about how to make Windows screen savers as a classroom activity, also marketing e.g. for the Core i7 (formerly Nehelam), the new CPU chip, officially releasing in about five days.

Sunday, November 09, 2008

ClockTet

:: Clocktet ::

This was one of my first ever Internet collaborations, back when the Web was still pretty new. Richard Hawkins had a high end (for the day) SGI computer graphics workstation, and could pump out these amazing geometric cartoons, an original inspiration for my hypertoon concept, which he encouraged me to write-up for a contest SGI was holding (I might have won a machine like his).

Anyway, I'd write these little "screenplays" about scenarios I'd like to see, and he stitched them together, added his own, picked the perfect sound track and voila: ClockTet. I remember showing this as the "cartoon feature" in San Diego's Balboa Park during the 1995 Fuller Centennial. People packed into that little theater to see movies about Bucky, and I did a live show with this ClockTet on VHS tape, just to warm up the audience.

Just to explain something: the title derives from the fact that 3 o'clock is a 90 degree angle on a standard dial clock, which 2 o'clock is 60 degrees. From the former we develop the cube, from the latter a tetrahedron, then we show all these relationships characteristic of Fuller's approach to geospatial literacy, involving the Jitterbug, duo-tet cube and so on.

Richard went on to make many more mathcasts of this kind, focusing on A & B module dissections especially, but not exclusively. Many of these were warehoused at the New Civilizations web site.

Friday, November 07, 2008

Standup Comedy at Newmark Theater

I've not been to that many live stand up comedy shows, so there's lots of basic stuff for me to observe at these events, plus I was performing liaison duty with AFSC, having been nudged to attend by Kelly on Facebook. Good meeting up with Marco.

Comedians, as they're called, feel out a crowd looking for limits, compare cities, sometimes out loud.

Portland has a reputation for anything goes, like Beirut, so the talent was eager to test our waters, yakking about Made in Oregon products, civil liberties and so on.

The crowd lapped it up.

We had lots of Iranian Americans in the audience, some of whom likely found some of this stuff somewhat shocking, what adult comedy tends to be a lot.

I should attend these gigs more often.

I'd enjoyed two of these comics before, via Glenn's PBS documentary.

Ahmed Ahmed seemed especially at ease this evening, comfortable doing playfully interactive improv with theater goers amidst plenty of tested material.

Probably those Russians in Dubai thought he was funny too, kind of an Evil Bert in some ways, a good match for Bad Barby.

So what's up with these psychology dolphins?

I tell ya, I get the weirdest emails.

Thursday, November 06, 2008

More With Less

I chauffeured Carol to PDX this morning, having taken her out to dinner last night, at a local folks eatery (nothing too fancy).

A familiar sight in the halls of power, pushing her "congress coaster" and peacemaker agenda, she's anxious about making it to all sixty four senate offices, representatives of those states from which she has signatures, on a petition against weapons in space.

So far, the "don't-know-why" politicos have tended to cave to the manifest destiny crowd, a small authoritarian minority that believes in rule by brute force and yet feels entitled to pontificate about "freedom" and "democracy" -- sounding rather idiotic when so doing.

Then it's on to Geneva.

En route to the airport, we discussed how expat Americans who've spent time in Africa, such as herself, might be considered African American from a memetic point of view (talking about memes).

But of course many folks are fixated on genes over memes, DNA having been only recently discovered, whereas the concept of "race" is rather older, more tired, often confused with the anthropologists' concept of "ethnicity".

Tuesday, November 04, 2008

GST @ Math Forum

Over on Math Forum, G.S. Chandy and I are digging through old management theories and philosophies, looking for what passes for "mind maps" in today's K-12 edu-speak.

We're in agreement that time isn't the only important dimension, and that GST (general systems theory) has some kind of handle on that fact.

Beyond that, it's unclear if we have the makings of a collaboration here.

Philosophically, it sounds like we're both advocating a less sequential design, when it comes to curriculum, but with attention to coherence and relatedness nonetheless, i.e. not wasting students' time is an over-arching goal (doesn't mean student won't waste their own time, but that comes more under the heading of "live and learn" i.e. there's really no substitute for personal experience sometimes).

In a Synergetics-informed view, "mind maps" tend to "connect around in all circumferential directions" i.e. we don't sketch our networks on a flat expanse of desert, but on a desert planet (but with lots of CamelCase, either way).

Monday, November 03, 2008

Perl in the Pearl

Perl the programming language gets three shelves, Python likewise, Ruby five, though with titles repeated in all cases, talking about Powell's Technical, north Park Blocks.

Three Shelves of Perl
That's where I spent some time this afternoon, between Sushi Land and The Armory (Portland Center Stage).

Objective In View
I bought the complete works of Gaudi, am quite happy with that purchase.

A Keeper
We had power outages in and around our neighborhood tonight.

Power Outage

Saturday, November 01, 2008

Press on the Play

OK, Willamette Week (WW) was clever in calling Bucky a "lunatic" as that gets decoded in the play itself, as more preaching to the choir. Good issue overall, focusing on performance pay in education, something of a moot point in gnu math teacher circles, as we're mostly self-employed entrepreneurs in this cycle, not payrolled rank 'n file types.

Performance and staying on the job somewhat amount to the same thing for us, some more successful than others at bringing home the bacon (or tofu, as the case may be). Not everyone thinks gnu math should be taught, as it steals brain cycles from other more established curricula, such as the standard ETS-approved precalculus, adds more trigonometry (including spherical).

In the meantime, architectural bloggists are ruminating about what to say about Fuller's legacy, whether the domes were "a failure" or not. Before rendering a judgment though, it pays to check out where to find them in Portland: in the NW industrial port area, a warehouse and stockpiling district. Lots of the fuel tanks are using 'em for covers.

However, and this will be a focus of my presentation on election night: geodesic domes do not encompass Fuller's legacy, as he shared Alexander Graham Bell's fascination with space frames, with lots in the play on these (goes back to the dried peas episode). So in Portland, that means our World Trade Center most notably.

Likewise he championed more use of tension (Golden Gate Bridge), i.e. suspending from without more than pushing out from within (GrecoRoman). But of course one can't take or give personal credit for megatrends of this nature. That being said, PDX (the airport) is a good example of what Fuller had in mind when writing Synergetics.

Thursday, October 30, 2008

Looking Ahead

Dateline CubeSpace, 7:30 PM -- me in the back corner, working a bottle of diet Coke, surveying the scene. Ward Cunningham is here, invented the Wiki. Jason, talking about open source conferences in Argentina and Chile. There's a bit of a spread, food-wise, wolfed cookies and chocolate-coated strawberries.

Why are we here? OSCON is leaving us for San Jose, creating a vacuum, which nature abhors, something like that. We're here to inject new life into our city's vibrant open source culture, not so long ago celebrated in Christian Science Monitor as a flag bearer for same. Up to 25% women in Argentina, and climbing. Tonight's tag team is also all women, designers of Open Source Bridge, or just Bridge for short.

This is the same room I last visited in my capacity of PPUGer, gave a lightning talk on Python 3.0 and its apocalyptic significance in terms of backward incompatibility. No one seems especially freaked out about it though, not like the older Pythons have anywhere more special to go. Python 2.6 is where to poise yourself, if you wanna take the leap.

Why we love Portland: Powell's, bike lanes, farmer's markets, sustainability principles, plus we build things: a plethora of tech events, user groups, Linus lives here, Calagator, open source rocketry, OTBC, OSL, Legion of Tech, lots of grassroots energy.

So lets have an awesome open source conference!

This'll take ongoing community organizing, more doing of what we're doing.

We've got time reserved at the Oregon Convention Center, targeting about five hundred attendees.

Sponsors are starting to line up (should I join them?), although it's a bit early to throw around numbers.

Admission charges are expected but need to be much lower than OSCON's obviously.

Rick Turoczy is heading up Marketing, taking on promotion well beyond city limits. Let's coordinate blogs etc. He'll be leading one of the seven breakout sessions.

Jake Kuramot is taking on Finance.

Adam DuVander is looking at IT ("the technology experience" -- important in marketing).

We've got a Logistics Supervisor, and a Content Management staff. Looks promising. I like the way the leadership is already so organized.

Some guy wants to know what the "philosophy" will be -- he's trying to get at "look and feel" issues (as in "how commercial?") but that's not an easy topic to grapple with in a plenary session of this size.

Shared vision is important though, we should get more of it in writing.

This won't be a trade show, is developer friendly, about networking and collaborating. Knowledge-sharing. Some discussion erupted about the difference between "open source" and "not for profit" -- that could get thorny.

I'm attending the content breakout session, asking if teaching (as in effective techniques) will be one of the tracks. Varied formats, unconference section. Cooking vs. Chemistry metaphor ("get it done" versus "theory"). Good thinking.

Alpha geek Allison Randal is here, helps make it official.

I encouraged the organizers to look at this as showbiz, something they're staging, not kowtowing to community expectations too much, willing to show off new concepts, show 'em how we do things in Portland.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Some Prehistory

:: exhibit A ::
A close business associate was recently questioning me as to which web sites I'd done, and I boasted of both solo and group efforts, citing 4dsolutions.net and grunch.net in particular.

However, in the context of boning up for this IEEE talk I'm delivering, I've had to flaunt some credentials, otherwise why waste our time, is the attitude, so I trucked out bfi.org as another collaborative effort, in this case with Kiyoshi Kuromiya, Bucky's adjuvant on some important works.

So here's a screen shot for the blog (above), of just the home page, dug out of the Way Back Machine (archive.org), last updated November 6, 1996. I gave up my spot to a successor shortly thereafter, the plan all along, as I envisioned the BFI webmaster role as subject to rotation, likely influenced by standard Quaker practice.

Here's the bio we're using:
Speaker:

Kirby Urner started exploring Fuller's work in earnest following his earning a BA in philosophy from Princeton University, while serving as a high school math teacher in Jersey City. He's served as a contributing editor for McGraw-Hill, Rockefeller Center, political activist for Project VOTE! in Washington DC, and computer programmer for myriad governmental and nonprofit organizations in Greater Portland. Working in cahoots with Kiyoshi Kuromiya, Fuller's lieutenant on a couple key books, he snagged the domain name bfi.org and served as the Buckminster Fuller Institute's first web wrangler. His 'Synergetics on the Web' is one of the main stops for Bucky scholars to this day ( http://www.grunch.net/synergetics ). Kirby is an IEEE Member.
Speaking of collaborative sites, it was an honor serving to administrate the Python in Education page within Python.org (not doing that anymore), and giving some marginal support to Nirel with her Metahead project with Wwwanderers.org -- both opportunities to work with some brilliant and talented people.

Saturday, October 25, 2008

Laughing Planet

@ Laughing Planet

In offering to spike your caffeinated beverage with some Jack Daniels, we're not muscling in on liquor bar turf so directly, as the ambiance involves staying, or at least looking, pretty sharp, in business clothes, basically conducting small board meetings, using the LCD for either PowerPoints (generic) or real time hookups with partners in this / other time zones.

Sports bars involve sharing one screen to a whole room, whereas a coffee bar distributes content through multiple screens, each potentially hosting different programming, like those old juke boxes, one per booth.

However, for a host of reasons, Portland might not be the best city for prototyping, even if some of the thinking is coming from Pauling House Campus and environs (Richmond / Sunnyside).

We could develop streaming content locally, asynchronously served (or synchronously even), per our ToonTown economy, yet clue "first viewers" closer to Hollywood. That's an equation involving state statutes, political climate, other factors.

"Good thing we have 50 states" is what I'm thinking.

Of course the franchise idea occurred to both Nirel & myself (we think alike in some ways), and also the possibility of occupying different tiers, in terms of family friendly, versus no minors allowed.

The idea of an NC-17 McDonalds may be counter-intuitive (to call up a known franchise i.e. chain), but one might imagine gradations in service nonetheless, as in Orlando.

In a parallel meeting with Patrick, we resolved to trademark some stuff around our HAARP beer concept, a play on the Irish brand, "affordable mind control: inexpensive, not cheap". We might have one of those HAARP cams play a part in commercials.

Yes, we're into spoofing those many urban legends, have some DIA grays on the consulting team, just to keep it real.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Religulous (movie review)

I caught most of this, a last minute swerve in my schedule, after visiting with my friend Gordon.

Some of the talents Bill recruited to share time on camera were pretty interesting to me, like that guy in front of the Vatican, some late model priest. The Catholics come off as the most rational in this picture, compassionate towards a lost sheep.

The focus is mostly Middle Eastern prophetic religions, and Scientology a little, not much Buddhism for example. I wasn't clear on the Amsterdam guy's religion, but maybe that was the point.

I'm glad Bill wraps up his views with an impassioned sermon at the end, just to make it clear where he's coming from, in case anyone were unclear.

Whereas I certainly don't believe everything Bill does, the film comes across as a sincere inquiry, an earnest investigation. There's no depth psychology or Bill Moyers angle (a very different Bill).

Yes, Maher is somewhat heavy handed with the stereotypes, but that's a necessary short hand to point making, a permitted rhetorical ploy, especially in the comic tradition (Bill is a comedian).

He mostly sticks to the rules of debate with not too much ad hominem beyond basic ridicule, such as one might find in any stand up comic act.

It takes some courage to take on the world in this way, Michael Moore move over.

Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Coffee Shop Philo

:: philosophical tableau ::
(with special thanks to Fine Grind)

Per my meeting with Glenn Stockton this morning, I'm interested in competing with more academic formats, such as classroom lectures, with something more like Ted.com, but with LCDs discreetly positioned for pairs or small groups, with or without headphones or audio.

The content won't be exclusively philosophical of course, but aesthetics and ethics tie in, even in such commercial settings. Glenn's global matrix (hexapent geometry) will likewise get focus.

My companies use synergetic geometry to self promote, for example, which will inevitably reinforce what some teenagers are now getting in school. We aim to supplement, not replace. Imagine hypertoons, some of them commercials for Quaker businesses.

Coffee shops are conducive to being studious (unlike taverns), or at least some of them are, at least some of the time.

The group on Synergeo (a Yahoo! eGroup) seems a little bent out of shape over the Wikipedia article on Synergetics, which at the time of this writing is devoted to an entirely different work by that title, than the one depicted above.

So I've patiently explained that you can't copyright a title, any more than you can an individual word in common usage (such as "gravity"), and besides, not having anything decently comprehensive about our Synergetics on Wikipedia just has the effect of driving more eyeballs to my sites, which is to my commercial advantage.

So let's just say I'm not too worried about it.

Per recent threads with Terry and Diane, I'm willing to promote his ISEPP organization through my syndicated LCD channels (coffee shops subscribe, and not just to mine) as a charitable cause, but he probably wants to see how I do it for these for-profits first, just to make sure my promotional activities are indeed truly advantageous to my various client brands -- like Jack Daniels maybe?

In the interests of full disclosure, my company (DWA / 4D) used to be ISEPP's bookkeeper, but those days are long gone, don't even get the free tickets anymore.

So, I wonder what Roz is up to, time to visit her blog. Fond memories of meeting her on Thanksgiving last year, while visiting with Les and Elise.