I'm tracking Owens some, and caught this interview, which harkens back to Veil days and Bob Woodword and such topics, i.e. around the time I was starting to tune in DC, even living there off and on.
I was playing offense on many levels and had my own relationship with DC comm circuits.
When I had that job with McGraw-Hill I'd continue with some of my earlier Jersey City themes.
I was back in the company of Ray Simon, after all. He later moved to Vegas. I ended up back in Portland.